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TB fcking hates me but why..

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TB fcking hates me but why..

Post by rufio on Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:11 pm

I did 35/6 in 8 min on Fuel Depot with one 20er Spree and just got 15 ppm.
I don't know why..
http://et.trackbase.net/index.php?mod=sessioninfo&idx=7754599

This loc* guy had 24/8, but got 21 ppm.

Here on Minas i had 129/32

And just got 16 ppm.
http://et.trackbase.net/index.php?mod=sessioninfo&idx=7637765

I don't give meds but I thought u gain enough xp by killing some ppl lol.

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Re: TB fcking hates me but why..

Post by Veraudinus on Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:38 pm

Rufio i have same problem... 136/28 on venice, 23 ppms and -0.08. That's shit i know :/

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Re: TB fcking hates me but why..

Post by Destiny+ on Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:43 pm

Now this loC*guy probably threw some packs at spawn,they do hard if i remember right,anyway 5 thrown packets = 1 headshot kill so its possible to gain many xp by throwing some more packs + reviving people also gives you 5 xp so he maybe did it like that?
and to veraud i have no idea why you did "-0.08" with that awesome stats..maybe too low avg rate but dunno only my opinion.

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Re: TB fcking hates me but why..

Post by rufio on Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:44 pm

http://et.trackbase.net/index.php?mod=sessioninfo&idx=7760229
Look this session actually I dont play on F|A Recruiting but ya i tried. Got highest fragger with 39/10 = 21.35 ppm
Rackoonie/AspiRin had 39/16 = 24.54 ppm
This is ridiculous.

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Post by rufio on Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:49 pm

One question destiny you are not a Pro* member right? Why do u have in ur avatar ur name + pro* tag?

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Post by Jurse on Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:03 pm

in fa1 u gain ppm by doing damage not kills...maybe thats the explanation

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Post by ***Torte on Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:00 pm

fa 1 u get xp for headshots for example.

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Post by ballz on Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:18 pm

rufio wrote:One question destiny you are not a Pro* member right? Why do u have in ur avatar ur name + pro* tag?

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well rufio, if you haven't thrown any packs, that's probably the reason why your ppm is kinda low. do not whore but throw a few packs, will help

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Post by N3kr0n on Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:04 pm

You can't judge ppm by kills only. 90-10 score is definitely going to give more ppm than 120-30 score. But even that doesn't necessarily show anything - it all depends on when you die (for example, 29sec after first kill or 31sec) and whether you kill with body or head shots (in FA2) or whether you do damage and get xp without killing (FA1).

For example, on your Minas map (129 kills, 39 min) you got 387-645 xp depending on headshots. That's 9.9-16.5 ppm from kills. Let's say average is 12. The other 4 ppm or 156 xp came from battle sense. All seems logical.

On the first screenshot, it's possible the Loc guy just threw a lot more medpacks or you just did a lot of bodyshots. Also, 8 minutes is such a short time that TB measuring errors have more effect on ppm than on long maps.

Also, medpacks are really important. For example, if you die 30 times on a 30 minute map and throw 3 medpacks every time you leave the spawn, you get 3 more ppm. And 3 ppm is huge in FA2.

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Post by rufio on Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:00 pm

ok i will try that now on some maps. One question as i know sprees give more xp because u dont die and u get xp per every minute you are alive + kills etc..true? Often even if i got two 20er sprees ppm still low.(also not much death)

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Post by Destiny+ on Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:13 pm

i think your main fault is that you are fixed too much on huge sprees better run into battlefield,recive some damage and do some kills in a smaller ammount of time, the " - " you get by dieing is being catched up by the 3 med packs you throw at spawn and the battle sense you recived,
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/edit: about my avatar i dunno who changed it , i didnt.

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Post by rufio on Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:29 pm

but im highest fragger also i mean i also get aspirin..but he got way more ppm with like same amount of kills but more death..

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Post by Spl@$h~ on Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:48 pm

/edit: about my avatar i dunno who changed it , i didnt.

Only admins can do that , i mean if you didnt , nrgy nekron kettler and mylsef , and pretty sure we didnt do that.Anyway not really important Smile

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Ofc ppl just have in mind , how many kills they had and compare to others ..
but it doesnt mean anything and many factors are included.

battle sense is one of the most important thing .. and as said previously some med packs @ respawn can make a big difference.

over 25 deaths dont expect high ppm ( wihtout whoring)

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Post by N3kr0n on Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:32 pm

On that map with Aspirin - he had 6 more deaths but maybe those deaths came shortly after spawning or right after he got battle sense xp and maybe you were just unlucky and died right before battle sense xp. It's all quite random. But sure, he probably threw a lot of medpacks as well. Also, maybe he finished more kills with headshots.

About battle sense xp - you get it every 30 seconds. If you do damage, you get 2 xp, if you do AND receive damage, you get 5 xp, if you kill AND receive damage, you get 8 xp.

Tip nr 1: even if you can't get a kill, always try to hit AND receive at least 1 bullet every 30 sec.

Tip nr 2: if you go around ninja style killing everyone and getting sprees, let some noobs shoot you for at least 1 dmg every 30 sec, or you will only get 2 xp, not 8, even if you kill.

On a perfect 30 min map, always killing and 0 deaths, you get 480 xp or 16 ppm JUST from battle sense. So yes, it's important.

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Post by rufio on Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:45 am

This is new for me. I don't even know how I got my rate with just no knowledge lol

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Post by Spl@$h~ on Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:32 am

Smile

yeah not many ppl know that i guess or just dont remember or try to understand how it workds really.Most of us/them just play like that .. target is kill.

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Post by jumala* on Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:23 am

hmm I dont think thigs like that at all. I just shoot as much I can and try to be without deaths and hope best. somethimes there comes rly bad ppms with good stats but usually ppm is ok. well in short maps ppm seems to be rly random.like in oil kombinat and ( I dont remember that other map)in fa2 even if you play well ppm is only under 20 if map takes only like 4 min dunno why maybe some bug or you just dont get battle xp dunno.

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Post by rufio on Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:51 pm

http://et.trackbase.net/index.php?mod=sessioninfo&idx=7910427

I had 37/9 with one 15er spree also gave some meds but well again just 18ppm.
k*lista had 39/17 and gets 21 ppm and he did not whore. I think i just start shooting some heads again and thatz it.

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Post by N3kr0n on Sat Feb 12, 2011 12:00 am

There are two things to do if you're still worried about the ppm.

1) Check your xp in-game before and after a map. See how much you got and then check how much TB tells you got. This way you see if the problem is on TB side.

2) Save a replay of your map. After playing, check how much xp your enemy (Aspirin, Klista whoever) got from kills and from medic. This way you see if they got xp from med or from headshots or from battle sense.

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Post by ***Torte on Sat Feb 12, 2011 12:35 am

tested warbell 49/8 & venice 80/30.
only with kills, no medpacks,no revives etc.

both maps 17 ppm.
1 revive per minute or some medpacks extra and u will get 21...

and play late night or in the morning.isnt so laggy.

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